Please read on, I would like your opinion...
The other day, I was at Wal-mart doing a grocery run. Of course, I was on my own with all three of my small children (meaning that it was not a simple task). I really dislike the big carts because they're like navigating semi trucks and they cause more problems between the kids than they are worth. Not to mention, it's rare to find that all the buckles work. So, I chose to take a normal cart and put my smallest child in the seat and train/scold/threaten the other two to stay near the cart as we all navigate through the store. This actually goes alright except for my dawdling daughter's slow-poky nature.
Anyway, I gathered all my groceries and began to head towards the check-outs. But, I decided to pass by the dresses because I need a new dress for a banquet coming up. I thought I'd just see what they had. Well, I found a clearance rack full of some pretty nice (and obviously cheap) dresses. Perhaps deciding to consider Wal-mart dresses for a banquet was my first mistake and then choosing to browse and collect dresses at the end of a grocery trip with two small children enjoying gymnastics on the clothing racks was my second mistake (remember the third child is strapped in). However, I was determined to find a good deal on a dress and they had some pretty cute dresses. So, I picked up four and headed to the dressing rooms with all kids and groceries in tow.
Upon arrival to the dressing room I found three workers. I had draped the dresses over the end of the cart (I ran out of hands about 3 years ago) so I looked up to the lady and said to her that I had four dresses. She said that I would need to hand them to her to be sure. Then she proceeded to tell me that I would not be able to take the cart into the dressing room because I had so many items in my cart.
I get this often so I began to assess the situation and the possibilities (usually people are reasonable and work with my limited resources). I looked at the dressing rooms to determine if the doors and walls allowed for an escape of a child. There was plenty of room underneath the door. I imagined myself half-dressed with two children in a dressing room with the messy and chaotic clothing racks as a maze to maneuver as the third child expertly escapes into the Wal-mart. I thought to myself am I willing to handle that situation - quick answer: NO. So then, I assessed some more and saw that there was a large dressing room available with plenty of room for the cart.
At this point (about 10 seconds after she said I would need to leave the cart outside) I looked up at the lady and said that I couldn't do that because my youngest (currently strapped into the cart) would escape underneath the doors. She replied with [pay attention here, this is the part that I want your input on] "you can take the children in with you or I can watch the baby for you but you cannot take the cart in with you."
Okay, so let me give you some more detail. I had enough groceries that I couldn't just take them out and set them aside but less than a total of $70 worth with the most expensive item being a box of wipes for $10. And, I wanted to try on dresses that ranged in cost from $10 to $13. However, she was willing to watch my child for me so that I wouldn't be a threat to steal something potentially as expensive as a $13 dress. I suppose, if I were a career thief, I could have been thinking big and hidden something small but expensive in my cart. But really, how expensive must it be to say that watching my child would be the item of lesser value.
I looked at her with an exasperated look and confirmed that she was unwilling to work with me. So I responded: "Well, I guess you'll be putting some dresses away." I plopped all the dresses on her pile of clothes to sort and yelled to the kids who were already in the large dressing room (they've done this before) to come because this lady wouldn't let us try on dresses. She then gave me a look of surprise like, "Oh, but you can, I'll watch the baby for you!" ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
Now, perhaps you think I'm overreacting, but this isn't the first time this has happened to me. Once I was at the exit of a Wal-mart with purchased groceries and entering the bathroom. I had already been checked by the "loss-prevention lady" but she still stopped me to tell me that I wasn't allowed to take the cart into the restroom. I told her I needed the cart to contain my children while we all used the facilities. She proceeded to ask what I would be doing in the restroom (I promise, I'm not exaggerating at all). She realized quickly (perhaps my look told her she had gone too far) that she had asked something absurd and then offered to watch my child. Now come on, seriously. Her job is to check for loss-prevention at the exit. My child would have been on wheels ready to cart right out of the store. Again, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
I could go on with other examples, but I think I've made my point. Here's my question: Is it over-reacting and too obstinate of me to think that a little compromise is reasonable in my situation?
I guess I'm saying that I feel entitled to some rules-bending, but am I so wrong? They offered to watch my child. Do you really think that's in the rules book? Do you think it says in the Employee Manual to offer to watch a person's child in order to obey a rule? I really hope not!
I firmly believe that it's important to make the customer happy. That's what makes return customers. And, that's what creates new customers by word of mouth. Financially it is always (perhaps there are some very rare exceptions) in the best interest for the company to make the customer happy.
But wouldn't it be easier to allow me in the dressing room with $70 worth of groceries rather than offer to watch my child, something I consider so valuable I would die for it.
Please, give me your comments. I'm dying to know. I admit, I can be stubborn, but am I absurd?
6 years ago
11 comments:
No, you are not absurd! However I.m going to make a generalization . Most people I run into at Wal-Mart (when I still shopped there, I no longer do for a different reason), are older. Older people, or even those who work with older people, are fantastic at following the rules. That is a good thing! However in days gone by I don't think that there was such a necessity for so many rules as we have today. Theft is a serious issue for retailers that needless to say, trickles down to the innocent.
I think that not allowing you in the room with your cart is silly, nontheless a policy. Child watching though has most likely not been addressed. What woman would NOT watch another womans child in a time of need?
I would of course not accepted the offer either and had to leave. I do think though that the lady was just doing what she probably thought was right. Though not being there and hearing/seeing her attitude... hmmm.
Sorry you had to deal with this!!! If we lived close we could swap out going to the store and watching kids! :) Though, it would not be Wal-Mart for me! Blessings! Maghan><>
I am sorry that you had a difficult time in Wal-mart. However, please don't blame the women who work there. They DO have strict rules and policies that they MUST follow, or they would get into trouble themselves. In this case, they cannot make an exception for you, for if they did, they would have set precedence. Ask an attorney, such as your husband, about setting precedence in common law legal systems. The U.S. laws have a long history of following old English laws that are based frequently on precedents.
No, watching customer’s children is probably not in Wal-mart’s policies, and probably not recommended by the management of any retail store. I believe the women offered it to you out of the goodness of their own heart since they are (most likely) mothers themselves, and feel competent in watching your children for you. The “punch” you intend to give to Wal-mart would most likely result in Wal-mart posting another rule/policy that workers are not allowed to watch customers’ children – as that creates huge liabilities!
Next time when you go shopping, head for the clothing department first even if you have no plan to buy. Just looking at new clothes and shoes could be fun and satisfying for us women. You can move on quickly if nothing interests you. Be smart, be organized, because that’s what you are. And, of course, be legal.
You'll figure out how to make it all work for you, smart girl.
I actually had a very similar experience at the same store! I had Jack in the infant car seat in the cart, and Grace in the seat part, buckled, and attempted to try on some clothes. The fitting room attendant told me that, I could not take the cart in, (even though I have before), but she'd let me if I took Grace out of the cart because it was UNSAFE for her to be in the dressing room in a cart, buckled. Unwisely, I did it just because I NEVER get to try on clothes anymore, and I spent the entire time gritting my teeth and telling her to stop pushing the cart into the wall, and to stop jumping off the bench. Unsafe? I did end up finding a manager, and she had never heard of the 'no cart' rule in the dressing room, and certainly hadn't heard of the 'no child' in the cart rule either.
I had a similar experience in a Target when we were on leave from Japan and I was trying to stock up on clothes because I couldn't find anything in Japan. I had Grace with me in a cart, and the attendant wouldn't let me in to the FAMILY dressing room with the cart, even though Grace couldn't sit up by herself, and I clearly was by myself and had lots of clothes to try on. She said it was a 'fire hazard'. Ridiculous. I say, next time, we just do it anyway and let them come take us away! :) I'll sign whatever you want me to sign... Danielle
From Uncle Steve:
I have found Wal-mart to be insensitive to the goals of parents myself. Speaking as an "older person" and the only male to comment thus far, Wal-mart must try and do a dance between making customers happy, preventing loss and still showing a profit. Three babies they must struggle with. Its just another sacrifice you will have to bare for your babies. I know this though, never having been in your shoes, or dresses, or even trying to test fit clothes with children in tow, I think you do one hell of a job as a parent.
My experience with Wal-mart and children; when our kids were smaller we would visit the local Wal-mart and the greeter would greet the kids and hand out some candy to them. Yea that’s right I’m the guy that spoiled that boondoggle for everyone. I pointed out to them that we are trying to teach the kids not to take things from strangers and here we walk in and a friendly face hands out free candy while the parents look on and tell the kids to thank the nice stranger. Now on more free candy for the kids at our local stores anyway.
If it were me, I would try to not get too bent out of shape about it. Take your business elsewhere. Give your money to a company that respects mothers.
How frustrating, I know. I am amazed at people who offer to watch a kid for me (I'm sure they mean well and want to help but it freaks me out) but I haven't had an employee anywhere ask. I take an empty cart or a highchair into bathrooms and dressing rooms with me, when I don't have a stroller.
I know it would probably be considered ridiculous in a military town, but my first purely emotional reaction is that you should have pulled the "my husband is a marine in Afghanistan and I have no other way of trying on clothes for the next 7 months so get out of my way and show some respect" card.
My logical reaction is that Wal Mart (and other stores) should install buckled child seats (with a tray for toys or snacks) in their dressing rooms/ restrooms. They'd likely only need to do this in one room per store, and have two seats installed, so if any child is not contained it is probably at least a three year old. That would keep everybody happy in my opinion. Personally, I am constantly taking carts in dressing rooms or bathrooms because there really is no other way. If someone tried to stop me I probably would walk out, and probably not come back. I understand the store's point of view re: theft prevention, but they need to make another way for parents because it really leaves you no viable option. (I agree that from our perspective as well as store management perspective, having employees watching kids is not a viable option.) Wish we were closer so I could help you out.
Kel- I knew the minute i met you i loved you. you are the most amazing mother and wife. sorry for the wal-mart experience. my response would have been, "touch my child and die." sorry, i know the woman was just trying to help, but i am with you baby, "Are you kidding me?" i wish we lived closer, nothing would make me happier than to sit with your kids while i sent you somewhwere that had the most beautiful dresses to have you buy two, on me. it was so good to see your face in Dallas last week and catch up a bit. i feel like i have done that so much better here, reading through everyone of your posts. Couple of things...1. i am committing to praying for your sweet family for the remainder of your 7 mos. 2. your kids are so darn cute. 3. we need more people in this world like you. Keep looking to Jesus, Kel. He loves you and knows it all. Every blessing - Beth
From Danny:
Kelle, is this the Wal-Mart they were building when we came to visit in August last year? I can sypathize with you. It seems like people are getting stricter on enforcing rules and policies wherever you go these days. Few people are willing to bend the rules for anyone for fear of the consequences such as possibly losing their job. Even in a situation where it would make more sense to break the rule. I can understand your reluctance about leaving Roman (or Mikey or Sammi) with a total stranger for any length of time. It's not a safe thing to do even though the clerk probably had good intentions. You did the right thing.
I would ask the store manager what their policy is on taking a shopping cart with a child strapped in and two in tow into a dressing room. If they say it can't be done, suggest they secure a baby seat or small play pin in at least one of the dressing rooms (or make a child secure dressing room with no gaps under the door) so you can try on clothes and watch your kids at the same time otherwise you'll have to buy your clothes elsewhere.
Kelle-
You are the most amazing mother I know. I definitely take my hat off to you for what you do for and with your three kids. I wouldn't go as far as saying that Wal-Mart is not mommy friendly, I believe that is a bit over board. They have a policy that they most follow and you are no different from the next person in their minds. I have dealt with the same situation at Target, but I was allowed to take my few items out and bring the buggy into the family dressing room. I agree with the previous post stating that maybe you should trying shopping for clothes before you start grocery shopping to avoid any issues. I don't believe this is a big enough "punch" to "knock Wal-Mart out." I think the lady was trying to be nice and follow the rules at the same time because she know you would not be able to empty your basket. Maybe next time (and this may be a bit much) you should trying getting an empty shopping cart to bring the kids into the dressing room. Just a suggestion just incase you are ever in that situation again. But as Daniel said, Target is the same way, so good luck!
Sorry I'm so late to post. I think the lady who offered to watch your kids is either very sweet, or not very nice. Walmart should have extra carts in the dressing area so that when this situation arises, one can place her/his children in the empty cart and proceed to the dressing room.
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